also the Unigate milkman who had an electric cart and kept saying oh brother. Here is how it was reported by the BBC. history. Ray in Cornywall. Didnt stay for long as my parents moved away but certainly enjoyed it whilst I was there. Back to the New River, us 4 from 3b Southgate County met on Sundays in Geoffs Grannys House, Riverway and mounting to her Summer House Roof Platform at the end of her garden invented the game of Catchreeling, making our apparatus from cotton reels and cottons supplied by Granny the object was to cast as fly fishing to snare the bundles of cut grasses that seasonally the New River Authority trimmed from the banks. Also went to Hazelwood Lane school then to Winchmore school previously. Im doing some research on my family who lived in Tottenhall Road where teenagers and young adults hung out. Raymond, did you go to Ilfracombe Devon during the war. The adults who gave their time for us were great people! for Joe Hart at Tottenham Muni and Manor ouse Finsbury P, Dick Davis an Billy Cotton etc. After the Quick Service Cafe Bruno in 1967 moved 100mts to the corner of Princes Ave/Green Lanes & opened a coffee bar called The Bezazz Bar.Juke box, two pin ball machines, served tea/coffee/& light snacks.Spent most of my teenage years using this coffee bar as a meeting place to ponder over a two hour cup of coffee to decide what our next move would be!! It was called Lawleys I believe. Does anyone have a photo of prewar broomhill park with its original railings? But the mac an the suit attracted my beloved Patricia nee Cable (Winchmore ill) (not me, you unnerstand). & knickers etc. It is being discussed today and frequently, on my Facebook page Winchmore Hill And Palmers Green Memories. As she asked for opera top petticoats and long legged knickers the woman behind the counter would operate the very cleaver drawers lining the walls holding the goods. I went back to PG last year for a look around and was amazed at all the cars parked in my old road, Lynbridge Grdns as when I lived there there were none. He was very stern and terrified me! The ice cream was served from a sliding glass hatch facing the street, so you didnt have to go inside if an ice cream was all you wanted, in the summer the servery was always open otherwise a light tap on the glass and brother or sister would serve you with beautiful soft ice cream in a cone and a smile all for threepence. Work began on building St Georges Presbyterian Gothic style church in 1912. I do remember though looking at one of those planes that were bombs without pilots (forgot what they were called could it be doodle bug) with my dad and its engine stopped right over head. Irvington Center - 1960's; W.T. Laura. The chemist at the top of Hazelwood Lane was called Cross & Herbert. My grandmother lived at 50 Old Park Road, opposite Bloomfield Park, and I went to school at Franklin House School in Palmerston Road from 1955 to 1960, then the Winchmore Hill Collegiate School from 1960 to 1962. This isnt the place to get involved in that discussion so Ill just say that changes arent always for the best! Although we joke about the shop you could actually buy just about anything you required in the haberdashery line, ric-rac braid, elastic, cotton, american cloth by the yard etc. Annyway she sees the ambience of Palmers Greenery so later Dad as to buy a property to satisfy er haspirations Palmer Green wise N14annyway my Palmers Green is Jewell in Crown (I am salutin you er Majesty) no rushkeep crackin on, eh? See the My brother and I also used to park our guy on the days leading up to Guy Fawkes night outside Doms (with his permission) as it was always busy and situated between two bus stops. Time to create page: 0.262 seconds Powered byKunena Latest forum posts 60 years old and still looking good! Mum was Pool Attendant at Barrowell Green but we still had to join those long queues to get in..so long a waitso full had to wait as Mrs. Barry only allowed the extras in as people left. At the 1960 Masters Tournament, Palmer gave a glimpse of things to come when he birdied the final two holes to nip Ken Venturi and win by a stroke. I have very clear memories of it. Devonshire Road. Thank you for any help you can give Good times. We had lunch at the Fox pub and then went for a stroll around Grovelands Park. Jack enjoyed the rough and ready country life, hunting, shooting and fishing and the farm became his second home. Dordrecht, Netherlands. That, I attended Palmers Green High School in the late fifties and early sixties. Next, The Curzon just past the Post Office (not goin in there Raymond, too hexpensive). We had to make our own fun in those days, there were no iPads, computers,,,,,,,,,,, etc. I remember the bloke who served there and was a grumpy old git so I suspect this could be the same place. This marked the spot where lorries slowed, changed gear to ascend New River bridge and I would grab a tailboard chain and be towed up and up Bourne Hill by a Foden on my bicycle (not the Rudge yet) to St. Georges Road and peel off easily to Southgate County School in Fox Lane. it was victor value supermarket first then tescos. I think it then became Volvo (Triangle Motors) followed by a high end mens outfitters selling suits, shoes etc. Dad joined the Home Guard and I remember him cleaning his rifle regularly which used to stand in the corner of the kitchen. An elderly man worked there and a younger surely man. In the last few years Windsor Rd closed and we had to go to W Hill. on Improbably famous in Palmers Green #5: Jack Hargreaves, on Intimate demolition plans: Just a minute says Nicholas Parsons, The twentieth century and urban life in literature, Palmers Green Baptist Church, Green Lanes, Palmers Green United Reformed Church, Fox Lane/Burford Gardens, St Georges Presbyterian Church, Fox Lane / St Georges Road (demolished), Palmers Green and Southgate Synagogue, Brownlow Road, Palmers Green Mosque and Education Centre, Oakthorpe Road, Local dignatories, bigwigs and characters, Improbably famous in Palmers Green #5: Jack Hargreaves, Intimate demolition plans: Just a minute says Nicholas Parsons, http://www.palmersgreenn13.com/2015/11/03/every-street-in-palmers-green-5-ladies-and-gentlemen-live-from-palmers-green/, For more about the Intimates heady days of stage and screen, see. I had a mini and a few cortinas in the 70s all with big bore exhausts and used to make a deliberate noise going up Green lanes. welcome Its been a busy summer in Palmers Green culminated by the Palmers Green Festival held on the 6th September. I have also contacted the Enfield Walking Team since I found a Colin Fisher on their team, when they broke a world record in 1977. I had the best 7 years of my life with Victor, but sadly he died only last month, February 7 of cancer. of life as it was when the photographs in our archive were taken. I then became a (successful) travel writer and ended up as a journalist for an american newsletter. Does anyone remember Palmers Green High School in the early to mid 60s. Perhaps he moved out of the area or maybe passed away and the family sold it but thats only a guess. Absolutely free. No self-service yet. inbox. I started in the infants second year in 1947. The UKs leading archive and publisher of local photographs I used to have a paper round in the paper shop top of hedge lane and green lanes in 1963 I got fifteen Bob a week Mr pogson was the proprietor does any body remember him. Hello Dave, I didnt know Victor Madden when he was young as I live in Ely, nr Cambridge, but luckily, I met Victor on a Rock and Roll weekender in 2009 and we spent the next 7 years together. 70s. Then for a short while it was a Menswear shop that sold high end suits, shoes etc. Fortunately my mother never chastised me about it. Keith Headley, did you live on N.C.R? . Situated on the corner of Groveland's Road opposite Broomfield Park. The Intimate Theatre was opened in a building that had been built in 1931 as St Monica's Church Hall. These chairs had the smallest seats Ive ever seen and I often thought it was a miracle that my Gran ever managed to perch on one. Grants in Bloomfield; Old Bus with Palisades Ad; Ben Franklin in Pompton Lakes; Colonial Theater in downtown Pompton Lakes; Main If I remember correctly you used to play the piano, Michelle I started Hazelwood in January 1964. The Beezaz was like a second home !! James what year were you at Ambrose Fleming , I was there from when it first opened in 1962 [ I think ] until 1965 . List of teachers at Hazelwood school 1960s, Miss Hughes, Mrs Jones, Mrs Lee, Mrs Dark. Just read (13.10.17) email of your history contribution. Thank you. All had presentsmine was miniature guitarwere you at that party? (When I was a boy is banned in daylight hours this family). Scores were listed and published on my Dads old Barlock Typewriter. As to guy fawkes nightI was shot n the leg by a lout with an airrifle November, Beech Avenue 1948..no rush. . You will also find memories from contributors below, and across other pages on the website, where a post has maybe triggered a memory or two, http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ww2peopleswar/stories/16/a2115316.shtml. Seems a long time ago now! Daughter of Uncle Sid Rann (Imperial Father of the Chapel. Any help on how to find out would be much appreciated. Hi Gerry What about the lovely pantos at the Intimate theatre. The smell really made me sick. Janes & Adams was my favourite shop in Palmers Green. Do you remember the Toy shop opposite too? Hi Mitchell thank you for fillinin some potoles,, Maybe it was rebuilt very quickly or my memorys going! Operated by London Buses and Go Ahead London, the Palmers Green to Tottenham bus service departs from Melville Gardens and arrives in Victoria Road Edmonton. Yes, Dave, I knew Vic Madden by sight only, in the early 60s. The headmistress was Miss Belfontaine. It was a journey to Southern Television to give them a piece of his mind about an inaccurate programme on meat marketing that gave him his next big break, headhunted by top man Roy Rich to become programme maker and controller of a new production, Farm in the South. I remember the Ford Zephyr. Any idea of what it was called? Great times, scooters, mods, good jukebox, used to go upstairs. ten years between 1960 and until her death. I was in my late teens when it was opened. The surgery was in a big detached house with a lovely garden round it & you walked through a long pergola covered in flowers to get to the house. Its Sunday lunchtime. PS. Holborn). Ma used to send me there up Hedge Lane in the school olidays with a shillin for my lunch (includin tip)I remembers the custard. Remember the Pet Shop across the road from there, selling all manner of exotic animals (would be prohibited today) including Marmaset monkeys! Hello Jenny, I also seem to remember that the path to Dr Baxters surgery had a pergola over it which used to be covered with blossom (? So my boyhood dreams finally became reality! Lived in New River Crescent during 60s and 70s. Thanks Richard for the update on Vic, knew him from his window cleaning business in P.Green, cups of tea in Doms cafe & long discussions on where to go for the next holiday in Spain. Remember Reg Hart who has posted here- he was interested in meteorology back then. And it seems that so too will our old Intimate. Palmers Green Community
Hello Stephen..thanks for your promptin memorriesjust south of your late employer street-wise in them days on the corner of edge Lane was alf a shop where I ad to take mas dry cleanins, come snow or shineannyway Dad ad to ave is dickies starched weekly ,cos he was appearin (come snow or shine) on Friday nights at the Manor ouse Turnpike Lane or Tottnam Muniplayin sax(s) clarinet, piano, accordian, dubble base etc for the fashionable dancers in them days. I also attended Hazelwood school and remember Mrs bellefontaine I am now 66 years old. Further up from Ashwells towards Devonshire Rd.was a beautiful shop selling china and glass.This was close to the shop with the heavy coffee smella quite small shop which was probably next door to the 2nd. When we were small the barber put a piece of wood across the arms of the chair for us to sit on or we could not be seen in the mirror! [5] The Conservatory in the park has recently reopened after a refurbishment.[6]. Hi Gerry, Im nearly retired and living in Australia, you may remember my father Aubrey Todd who ran Kelvin Photos. I also recall Roberts toy shop on the other side. I couldn't remember the name of the cinema, but it was on Green Lanes, near The Triangle on the east side. It's easy to add your own memories and reconnect with your shared local He had been a prisoner of war and always seemed incredibly nervous. browsing more recent contributions Copyright Frith Content Inc 1998-2023. I also remember Vic Madden the window cleaner. I still hanker for an ice cream like Doms scraped onto a cornet with a spatula not scooped! I remember the Brody and Hicks name and Fotovalue. I remember juke box was playing a lot of Take these Chains From my Heart and set me Free. Happy searching, Sylvia Gambin. Nowadays there arent park keepers any more and some people get up to all sorts in local parks making some of them no-go areas in some cases. Oh and one of our members mum and aunt used to work there! those pioneering days we have evolved sophisticated and Good lunch time food & very good value. Thanks again. Patricia loved the picturesbut for me the sing along organ player at Capitol Winchmor ill.. why did we did disagree occasion like.ladies may comment, no rush. Do I get commission on the bet payout? It will take only a few minutes of your time and we'd like to hear your feedback. Think pool is still there. Nice to hear from you. Mr. Pratt was very critical of my dovetail jointing but roped me in scenery building for the annual Gilbert and Sullivan Operas as did Miss Green, Art, for paintings. Geno Washington once played there. From brief one-liners explaining a little bit more about the image depicted, to great, in-depth although i dont remember it having a cafe, maybe it did before my time though. In 2018 I interviewed the then manager of Forty Hall Farm for a The news about the vineyard's problems reminded me of a couple of things that Kate McGeevor told me. Its best to just have fond memories of how it was Sylvia. Anyone remember The Quick Service Cafe on the corner of Bowes Rd and N Circular run by WebThere are 4 ways to get from Old Street to Palmers Green by train, bus, taxi or car Select an option below to see step-by-step directions and to compare ticket prices and travel times in Rome2rio's travel planner. I used to by comics from him in the 60s. Search for your favourite UK places and read memories of the local area I wonder if anyone remembers Dr Baxter who had a surgery in Hazelwood Lane at the junction with New River Crescent where the maisonettes are now? One in Tottenhall Rd, Drakes at The Cambridge roundabout & at the Triangle, another at Empire Parade and Dewhurst in Green Lanes opp Tottenhall Rd. David. Hi I lived in Princes Avenue with my grandparents in 1969 and reading the comments the memories came flooding back. Responding to the notes on Barrowell Green Swimming pool, I was born in Southgate and lived at 6 Tintern Gardens from 1936 56, and attended Southgate County Grammar School. Regards The archive can be found at bbc.co.uk/ww2peopleswar. Bus routes 34, 102, 121, 141, 232, 299, 329, W4, W6, W9 and the N29 operate locally. One was called the UK tea company. Are you skating on thin ice already in the Netherlands? I was given an anointing spoon to commemmorate the big day. I lived in Winchmore Hill while married and enjoyed the playing field that is now Sainsburys and Baker, butcher and tea shop with the Green by Broadwalk and have fond memories of PG and WH as a young man. Socks, vests, liberty bodices(!) In the summer we sold ex Wimbledon tennis balls. I still as the familly piano bungin up my front room, opin the latist sprog will unravvell its potential. It was nice to hear your memories. Dave Todd. Our Dad would pay the 2/6d, and pick us up 45 minutes later as he worked nearby. Many years later when I was adult he told me what he saw. We've had many contributors recognising themselves or loved ones in our photographs. G lenda Jackson met Stevie Smith on a poetry-reading platform in the 1960s, when the poet from Palmers Green came into a late-blossoming fame. yore memories are late stuff to me for my writins as I sink into the westI remembers Janes an Adams afore the lectric shop hexpansion.in my days the winders were boarded up..just a sq.ft peepole like all shops (Ma an I urried past on our Fridy night out to Palmadium Pictures (Ma wouidnt go to the Queens, bit seedy she sed)(no one looked in them dark doorways then cos o things goin on! Cafe between Gambles an J an Adams (Ma says not goin in there Raymond, too cheep ) on our way back from The Palmadium. Ive lived here all my life (born 45) but dont remember that or Keiths being a bomb site.
He was spirited and rebellious and unable to get along with his father, eventually resulting in an unsatisfactory and inconclusive trip to a psychiatrist. One old lady lost her life in the fire. I dont remember you should I? I have fond memories of Palmers Green, as I worked at the station from aged 15 in 1963 till 1968. Dont start me on the shops the wonderful Evans and Davies and the evocatic smell of Grouts! I lived in Tottenhall Road until 1955 when we moved to Winchmore Hill but I remember the home made guys outside the shops on Green Lanes. Lovely to have you posting again Raymond Randolph! Palmers Green Police Palmers Green was once a tiny hamlet in the parish of Edmonton, situated at the junction of Green Lanes and Fox Lane. Can anyway tell me? The large, electric coffee grinding machine visible in the shop window. 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Miss Bellefontaine was the head teacher at Hazelwood Infants school during the forties, I know as I attended that school. Before you object that the government "can't afford" to pay claimants enough for them to live on, just think about this. She bought all her underwear from there. Palmers Green Restaurants Make a free reservation Lets go Available for breakfast now in Winchmore Hill View all Promoted Tuttons 3.6 765 reviews BritishCovent Garden Booked 2 times today Find next available Bantof 4.4 42 reviews EuropeanSoho Booked 14 times today Find next available Sydney Rocks 4.8 19 Unfortunately I have no knowledge of the Hedge Lane premises,hope this is helpful. I was just 15 and left school to become the first employee your father Aubrey gave me my first job and I never looked back and went on to become a photographer in the RAF as national service was compulsory at 18 after I joined a Photo retail shop in Turnpike lane named A M DAVIS after I started my own career in Muswell Hill N10 Then went on to open 7 more shops before starting a Franchise called FOTOVALUE with over 1000 outlets throughout Europe allowing the owners to retain their own name with just banners to say the where part of Fotovalue. Again has anyone any info on Bruno? As a schoolboy I attended Southgate County Grammar School in Fox Lane from 1948-53, and remember admiring new Jaguar cars in the Saul and Slatter showroom in Aldermans Hill. I also remember Burtons at the triangle and having a girl friend who lived in Tottenham road and the estate agents around Doms cafe including Dennis, Maxwell Miel who had a reg. Palmers Green is mentioned in Jona Lewie's song "You'll Always Find Me in the Kitchen at Parties" (1980). Take butchers, for instance, within 10-15 min walk of me (Chequers Way, where Metal Box Co was), there were 5/6 butchers that I remember walking to with my Mum. in the 70s I delivered your free paper for a while. Sylvia. More details Church under rev. I have written up many of my memories.. Hello Roger. Hi Jenny, slightly different location, a bomb did fall near the intersection of Green Lanes & Bowes Rd/N.C.Rd opposite Princes Ave. People were killed and the site was eventually leased by two brothers and used a a used car lot space called Keith Cars until the late 70s. I have spoken to a friend of mine who was born in the mid 30s & has lived near Hedge Lane most of her life but she doesnt remember a bomb dropping at the top of Hedge Lane. By then of course, Jack was long gone from Palmers Green, and truth be told, was probably little ever here, though in his day Palmers Green was still being built and there were still some fields to roam north of Bourne Hill. I manage to find scraped ice cream every now and then but nothing like the taste I remember. Did your dad run a newspaper stand by The Fox. Palmer's Green and Southgate Born in July 1939, when the war started I would have been about 6 weeks old. So my story really jumps forward to 1944. We lived in North London on the boundary of Palmers Green, N13 and Southgate, N14. You just came up in conversation and I Googled you. Hi Raymond, It was Sid Ran your uncle that I remember as a friend of my father, I believe I as at that party you mention but cannot recall the present I received but it may have been a small accordion. Walked there & back four times a day! And how kind he was to. People who have only had soft ice cream have no idea what theyre missing. I have some letters from around that time, describing the move and the area. Back in 2019, a time capsule was found at Chase Farm Hospital from the days when it was Chase Farm Hospital School, founded to take poor and orphaned children out of the Edmonton workhouse. I retired at 44 and have now become an expect at doing nothing. The buildings opposite however, which was the bombed out Princes Dance Hall, were rebuilt in a totally different style. As you may be aware, the Large Hall and Parish Centre at Cannon House require major investment. Also remember Mrs Dark who took 4A, an excellent teacher. I also got a passion for steam trains watching them working the sidings at the station. He was a bit of a nifty jiver down Wood Green Jazz Club. Can anyone remember the Bamboo coffee bar in Bowes Rd, cant find any history of the place or photos. They sold lovely solid, classy furniture. Palmers Green, United Kingdom One of the most popular tourist destinations in the world, London is a travellers delight. Not prescribed by my doctor Seifert of Hedge Lane fame. I remember headmaster Mr Bennett at t ottenhall rd junior school St Monicas, who own the site, first made a successful planning application to replace the theatre (also known as the Large Hall) with a single story parish centre in 1992. The smell of freshly ground coffee from the Home and Colonial grocers at top of the High Street. Annyway after ostilities e also gigged (very fashionable nowadays, eh?) I cannot recall any other bombs round that area. I think Myrtle Road was built in 1950, is that right? Built in the late 1930s, it stands as a handsome example of civic architecture from the period. I now live in Bedfordshire. Palmers Green, The Triangle c1965. You done a bit of boxing? Very interesting. !.thank you for jogging my memory. Why not add your memory today and become part of our The owners were brother and sister Dominic & Anna both born in Italy who arrived in England after the second world war,they were very hard working & organised, so much so they only lived 200 yards opposite in Tottenhall Rd. Can anyone help? .Yes I remember the cafe well, 1964, it was on the corner of N.C Rd & Green Lanes. I believe she moved up to Scotland after living in Ibiza for a while. Then, of course, the great Grouts with its artistic window displays! Between Windsor Road and Park Avenue was a greengrocers called Burkes, there were 2 Janes and Adams shops, the toy shop already mentioned, plus 2 doors from that there was the electrical shop an old sign saying Ultra Radio was still up on the front at the first floor (last time I looked). In 1902, however, large tracts of land were sold for building and the area began to develop rapidly. I lived in Tottenham rd during the war and remember being wrapped in a tartan rug and carried out side by my dad who was an air raid warden to see. An album is a way to save a selection of Frith photos, maps and memories that are of interest to you. Apparitions were seen and there was some poltergeist activity mainly at night with loud bangs downstairs. She must have been quite young then (unless it was a different Miss Hughes), but then young children think anyone over 20 is old. We recently had an email from Bente Dalsbaek who is trying to trace members of her family from when they lived in Palmers Green in the 1970s. Sylvia & Pennie have jogged my memory of Doms cafe in Palmers Green. The old boy used to stand outside and entice you in with phrases like.this one would suit youetc. And another question on the same side as the H&C but further towards Winchmore Hill opposite a photographers, there was a Jaguar garage. After the war it was on weekly visit. No expense spared by Mr.Grout!! By Was this a WW2 bomb? Dark..my teecher at Winchmore ill and Southgate County Grammer, Fox Lane, do you remember? Great memories, we lived in Winchmore Hill, in the 60s, 70s and 80s these comments bring back so many memories. Our dentist was Mr Finkel and I remember a story about a wall falling down by his house and squashing someone! The former Pilgrims Rest (reflecting the name Palmers "medieval pilgrim who carried a palm branch as a token of having visited the Holy Land") has already been demolished for housing. Happy times Hazelwood Primary School, Hazelwood Lane youth club, the Rec on sunny days. Dear Ray, If your Dad was Eric Rann, then he was my Great Uncle brother to my Granddad Syd, who also lived at The Larches. I used tio get my school uniform in Evans & Davies. To Gerry Hicks- yes I remember you, you had a wife called Rose and a daughter called Carol? AU $34.95. Send a personal message with a photo to anyone, anywhere. And for Freya, sad as it evidently was when articulated in her marvellous single, Lost Without Lots of predictable responses. I remember going there with my Grandmother in the 40s/50s.
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